Forum 2012

Posted below are comments and questions from visitors to this website and responses to those comments or questions, as and where appropriate.   The Forum has grown so much since it first began in early 2006 that all postings from then until the end of 2011 have been moved to 3 separate pages: Forum 2006-2007, Forum 2008-2009 and Forum 2010-2011.

Your comments, questions, sharing of your own mystical experiences, are welcome, so that this Forum can be developed; all with the objective of helping ourselves and our fellow travellers on the journey Home — to Oneness with the Giver of Life, the Creator Spirit, God, ‘Papa’  — to grow in understanding of what have historically been called the ‘Mysteries.’  The only reason they have been or still are ‘mysteries’ is because we have placed a ‘mist around our eyes,’ preventing us from having awareness of what has always been in plain view for us all, if we desire and are willing to open our vision to see them.

Any comments received that may be helpful to others for growing in familiarity with, understanding of, confidence in metaphysical, spiritual, mystical and esoteric realities, will be used, as the Great Desire of Jesus and all who follow him and espouse their lives to him, for the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth — the ‘Real World’ — begins to manifest itself in the Earth-life awareness of Humanity.  The sender will be identified by first name only, unless the sender specifically requests complete anonymity or the use of a nickname, pseudonym or other coded form of identification.  

The Forum will be updated as often as appropriate, indicating a date for each new posting, so readers can keep track of where they have got to in following, or contributing to, proceedings.

Please note that entries start with the latest postings at the top and the earliest at the bottom.

In order to keep this website focussed on its objectives, editorial control of content of the Forum will be exercised, so that it does not become inadvertently sidetracked (a favourite pastime of ego).  Some of the subjects discussed may seem to be not directly about the Kingdom of Heaven or Spiritual Reality.  The only reason we don’t already have the Kingdom of Heaven, here on Earth, is that humanity at large is deeply confused about many aspects and issues of life, causing loss of clarity about what is serviceable to our journey back to eternal reality — and what is not. 

The result is that we get bogged-down in ever-increasing amounts of detail, and this clouds our vision of the Way Markers for Life, what Jesus calls the Principles of Life of the Father (PLFs).  The Kingdom of Heaven is not about religion or piety but about Life and the living of it in at-onement with eternal truth.  If a person is confused about the direction to travel to find inner peace — the Kingdom — and this Forum can help them to find the Way again, by pointing out the PLFs that can help them in given circumstances or details, then this is well within its objectives.

May you be helped by them and, where motivated, contribute for the help of others, from your own questions, revelatory experiences or inspirational messages.

Brian Longhurst

Very interesting account of reincarnation, Brian. (As set out in the MoE dated January 25th 2012.)  

My husband is Buddhist and believes in reincarnation.  Since ACIM I haven’t been interested in it at all...since I understand that it’s an illusion just like the illusion that I call my life now.  I choose to work on forgiveness now...because there has been plenty for me to work with in this life.   I know now that forgiveness leads to that holy instant.  

Rosemary

My Dear Rosemary,

Thank you so much for your insightful message.  Truly, forgiveness is the key to the gates of Heaven, and will inevitably bring us to the eternal, Holy Instant.  According to Jesus in ACIM, it certainly needs to be top of our agenda, so your choice could hardly be mistaken☺.  

During the last 45 years it has been, and remains, my commitment and endeavour to follow the lead of Jesus and the Spirit of Truth in Their guiding of my life.  That guiding has led me to the place of understanding — particularly affirmed in ACIM — that knowing what we are dealing with (ego and its constructs, devised to divert us from Truth) is also of crucial importance in helping to dispel illusion from our mind, enabling its healing.

It is my desire and intent to honour all my brothers in the Sonship of God, and any variance between us of personal beliefs and perceptions, just as I hope others will honour me and mine.  I cannot but include you in this, because I love you so much and honour and salute you for the wonderful, devoted ‘labour of love’ you perform within the Catholic Church and for the children in the church school. 

Mingling ACIM prayers with those of the church takes much focused, one-pointed, steadfast commitment. It is very important that you have a ‘desire to participate in an organized church...the Catholic Church’, otherwise it would not be possible for you to follow, and put heart and soul into what is clearly your inspired calling — at least for the time being.  May you be deeply blessed, guided, strengthened and upheld in this most worthy of causes and callings.

Regrettably, it is not just the ‘we are all sinners’ dogma that is so unserviceable within institutionalised religions — including the Catholic Church.  At least as significant as that is the false teaching that sacrifice is the path to salvation — particularly, of course the doctrine that Jesus died on the cross as a God-required, once and for all blood sacrifice for our sins.  As you will be completely aware, from your devotional studies of ACIM, this is far from the truth, and has kept untold millions away from the truth, and understanding of the real, living Jesus, for many, many centuries. 

Many of us come into this life with our own purpose, or birth vision, and that purpose can only be agreed, decided upon before we incarnate.  We are then guided from the Realms of Light in the unfolding of that purpose during our sojourn in time.  The more we are willing to co-operate with that guiding, the more possible does it become for our birth vision to be fulfilled.  It is inevitable that those ‘aforetime’, or pre-incarnation choices will be affected by events, experiences and understandings arrived at as a result of yet earlier (in linear time terms!) events.  

The tongue-crushing did indeed have a pivotal role in Paul’s decision, but I would like to add that although he went through an array of feelings and emotions after it, including anger and a sense of being betrayed by unChristlike goings-on in the Church, it did set him on a path of intent to bring to the attention of any who were interested, at least some of the fundamentally erroneous teachings of the Church. 

The false doctrine of the blood sacrifice of Jesus (and the prerequisite of our accepting it as truth) as essential to our salvation — about as fundamentally erroneous as it could be — on which I have written exhaustively in my book, is the cause of so much guilt and fear that keeps us bound to riding the carousel of birth and death. 

As indicated above, which Jesus teaches us in ACIM, we need to understand what we are up against with ego, so that we can see through/past it to the eternal truth of our Being.  About 20 years ago Jesus said to me, ‘People need a jolt!’  He did not say this to scare me, or anyone else, but to point out that most of us ‘slumberers’ are unaware of how far from the truth of eternity our ego-mind thinking is, and in many instances it takes a jolt to bring to our awareness what will shake us from our lethargy and start to see things from our higher-Self perspective, and then start to actually do something about it.

That is what happened with Paul and the tongue crushing.  It was a jolt, a gift, an opportunity — albeit heavily disguised as adversity, as is so often the case in this world of duality — to help him decide he could not let this rest.  He had agreed to this ‘aforetime’, just as we all agree aforetime to the major life-changing events — which act as stepping stones — on our path back to Papa. 

As I understand your calling, you placed yourself where you are, to help the children — wherever Holy Spirit provided the opportunity — to know the truth, and thus avoid being completely indoctrinated in the Church’s misperceptions about God and Jesus, and our relationship to Them.

I would like to reassure you that I hold no ill will toward anyone in the church, past or present; all are my brothers.  It is the institution — founded on false premises, and thus an ego construct, that has enthralled countless souls for so many centuries — that is flawed, and it is important that this is understood by any who seek to know the truth of eternity in order to be willing to be led Home with the fewest diversions and in the minimum of delay. 

Delay means reincarnations that would be rendered unnecessary by the knowing of the truth.  All this is coming to light now, as the GRP is moving into its third, final, fulfilment phase, in which all that is not eternal crumbles and fades away as the unchangeable truth of eternity is revealed to the fragmented Sonship.  

As you know, there are no accidents, and the tongue crushing was a significant catalyst that honed my decision to follow this path.  In Paul’s consultations with Jesus, after he laid aside his body in the 1600s, Jesus made it clear that we all need a catalyst — or jolt! — a significant event or awareness, to help refine our chosen path for the next leg, or incarnation, of the journey Home; that he will then counsel us in how we can best proceed to enact that birth vision for the common good of all affected by its enactment; that he will also guide us during its unfoldment, if we are willing to listen; that he will empower the circumstances by which our awareness of this process comes about.  All this, so that we can progress immeasurably further by following his counsel to forgive and:

Forget your dreams of sin and guilt, and come with me instead to share the resurrection of God's Son.  And bring with you all those whom He has sent to you to care for as I care for you.

(ACIM, Clarification of Terms, 5.6:11,12.  My emboldening, for emphasis)

I am wondering if you have read my book, “Seek ye First the Kingdom...”?  It sets out the journey on which Jesus has led me to this place.  It is freely available on the Honest2Goodness website, has been substantially updated since 2005, and is shortly to be released as an e-book, and not long after that as a print book for those who like to hold a book in their hands and read a bit here and a bit there, wherever they happen to be — on a train, bus, plane, in bed... 

Of course I would be delighted if you wish to read it all☺, but may I offer this link to Part Two, in which you can select vignette 12? This sets out the scriptural references that unequivocally, incontrovertibly show sacrifice was never on God’s agenda, and which the Church has ignored, holding to the doctrine that Jesus died as a blood sacrifice to propitiate for our ‘sins’. 

I was surprised by how many people have written to me to the effect that they felt burdened by church teachings that forbade them to follow their hearts (our connection to our higher Self) in such things as communing with loved ones in spirit; that they were afraid to commune with Jesus because they had been taught they were sinners, and Jesus is coming again ‘to judge the quick and the dead’ (in direct contradiction of Jesus' own words from John 12:47); that what I had written had freed them from the limitation caused by those, and other church-promulgated misperceptions, and they felt liberated to enter into joyful communion with him and their loved ones in spirit. 

To help my brothers find release from labouring under such misperceptions is my heart’s desire.  These positive, grateful responses were to me an affirmation that I was on the right path, of following Jesus’ and Holy Spirit’s lead. 

I am well aware that my perspective on institutionalised religion comes across loud and clear.  I constantly ask Holy Spirit to be the editor, as well as the inspiration of the writing that emanates from my keyboard, because I realise that too much drum-banging turns people away.  It is my profound hope and intent to shine a light for Truth rather than simply bang a drum for pointing out error.  But ACIM points out that recognising error is prerequisite to correcting it. 

In love and endless blessing, and in earnest hope that we are still journeying together back toward Oneness, 

Brian

Eternal reality is described in ACIM as an abstract state of Being, whereas ego is an illusorily concrete state of mind of a seemingly split-off-from-truth, upside-down mind.  This is explained very clearly (no surprises there, then coming from Jesus) in ACIM T-4.VII.  I have included some extracts from it here, though reading/studying the whole section is highly serviceable to enhanced understanding:  

Ego illusions are quite specific, although the (true, whole, Christ Mind) mind is naturally abstract. Part of the mind becomes concrete, however, when it splits. The concrete part believes in the ego, because the ego depends on the concrete. The ego is the part of the mind that believes your existence is defined by separation.

Everything the ego perceives is a separate whole, without the relationships that imply being. The ego is thus against communication, except insofar as it is utilized to establish (or maintain) separateness rather than to abolish it. The communication system of the ego is based on its own thought system, as is everything else it dictates. Its communication is controlled by its need to protect itself, and it will disrupt communication when it experiences threat...  

 (My emboldening and italic, for emphasis.)

Our true, eternal state of Being — because it Knows, understands, is and has everything — has need of nothing, including thinking, pondering, debating, philosophising.  Everything that appears to be concrete has a perceived purpose or meaning, but only within time and place – because it is only within the illusion of time and place that any needs are perceived, or anything concrete appears to exist.  In our true state of Being, with need of nothing concrete, nothing concrete exists, because we made up time and place to serve our purpose of separating ourself from Papa. 

The following exchange was posted on January 1st 2012

Dear Brian, 

In your MoEs and quite a few places in your book you refer to the Realms of Light and souls from there communicating with you.  As I understand it from my reading of ACIM and other books on eternal reality, there is the reality that we know as Heaven, or eternity, and there is illusion, which is everything we perceive, or believe, that is not eternal, and therefore cannot be real. 

Further, according to ACIM (or at least, my understanding of it!) when we awaken to reality it is to awareness that we are One, and personality identity ceases to exist.  Yet, you speak of your children in spirit, of the friend you describe as the Rector, and the Teacher, and various others.  They all seem to be separate individuals, not one Being, or one Identity in Christ.   

Don’t get me wrong, I am not disputing the things you write.  In fact, I love it, and have been helped greatly to make sense of what the world calls the Mysteries.  Therefore, I am trusting you can cast further light on this area, to increase my understanding, to help clarify the picture, put more pieces of the jigsaw in place, so to speak. 

Thanks in anticipation and blessings for peace in 2012,

Neil

Hi Neil, 

Great to hear from you, and thanks so much for the opportunity to explain this use of the term ‘the Realms of Light’. 

This is a term I coined (I dare say there are others who used it before I did) to give a broad description to discarnate souls who are of a ‘place’ or state of spiritual attainment that is either some way ahead of where are most of us in the earthly life, or are indeed, ‘all the way Home’ in terms of full enlightenment, and in need of no further incarnations. 

It is evident that Jesus is fully awake and restored to Oneness in Papa.  In fact, if we are to believe the Gospel accounts of his life, he has been in that state of ‘I AMness’ since before Abraham, for John 8:58 records him as saying: Before Abraham was, I am.  Indeed, it must be so if he was to be able to plan, implement and oversee, or be in charge of, the Great Rescue Programme (GRP) — the final phase of what he calls the Atonement (pronounced at-one-ment) in ACIM.  The GRP, to which Jesus referred in his parable of the three measures of meal, and which is extensively discussed in chapter 10 of my book, began to become manifest in the world of time and place with the life of Abraham, 4,000 years ago.  Its planning therefore, must, in linear time terms, have been ‘before’ that, although it does not serve us well to be hung up in linear perceptions. 

Accepting that Jesus is fully at-one with Papa definitely ‘places’ him in the ‘ultimate’ Realm of Light.  I have no doubt there are others who have reached that place of full enlightenment.  In that place, or state of Being, individual identities are left behind, serving no further purpose for such Beings, since separate, individual identities are made up, an ego contrivance to ‘prove’ separation.  However, such Beings of Light may choose to retain the use of their Earth-life identity for the purpose of helping those of us who have not yet awakened to that state of Self-remembrance.   

Untold millions of fragments have come to know and love him whom we identify as Jesus, so if he continues to present himself to them as ‘Jesus’ they will feel safe and able to trust him as their Guide to Eternity.  I attest to this in and from my own experience.  All the while any of us have a perceived need to look to Jesus for our help, strength and guidance, he will be there for us, presenting himself in that identity, for their peace of mind and comfort.  When we are all fully restored to remembrance of our oneness, he will no longer be perceived by any of us as Jesus, just as we will no longer identify ourself as Neil, or Brian... 

This communing with Papa in November 2008 explains it perfectly: 

...Enter in, enter in; attune with Me with rejoicing, waking to the fullness of your glory and your oneness in Me.  You are in Me and I am within you; there is mutuality in our love, which We extend to each other continually.  In that extending is the ecstasy of My creation, which is you.  Only in you is My ecstasy, My joy, My fulfilment, My completion.  When you deny yourself, you deny Me.  This is your only blasphemy.

Wow! Papa.  This is some revelation.  It changes my perception, brings me up short.

I know your desire to return wholly to Me above all things.  To do this you must return wholly unto your Self; ‘Big Me’, as you have rightly observed.  Jesus was wholly in Me because he was wholly Self – I AM.  You are ‘I AM’ also.  All the fragments of My Son also are, indivisibly ‘I AM’.  They say to themselves ‘I am Brian’, or ‘I am Theresa’, or ‘I am John’, or ‘I am Mary’.  Each time they make such pronouncement, there is one word too many.  For ‘I AM’ is Who they are.  The rest is made up, illusion.  Do you wish to be made up?

No, I don’t, Papa; I wish to be real.

Keep on, then, reminding yourself, ‘Big Me’ is good because it focuses on your ‘otherness’, your ‘realness’, your ‘I AM-ness’.  There is no other you than ‘Big Me’. You have no other name, no other being, no other identity.  It is a distraction, a diversion away from the truth of Who you ARE.

But while I seem to be in, or with, a body, my brothers will see me as Brian…

Let that serve its purpose then, that you may use that illusion to bring your brothers to the truth of Who you are, that they may be re-minded of Who they all are.  This illusory self can be restored to oneness, and thus disappear back into Me, forever.  It has a purpose only in time, never in Eternity.

Welcome Home, My beloved.  The banquet awaits.

Thank you, beloved Papa.  You know how much I enjoy a feast!

 Now, we all have loved ones in the etheric realms, or, broadly speaking, in spirit, or discarnate.  Some of our loved ones are further ahead than others on their journey Home to eternity.  It could be said that those further ahead are ‘more enlightened’, or ‘in the Light’ than those some steps behind.  But that does not necessarily mean they are fully Awake, and in no further need of reincarnating in order to break the cycle of birth and death.   

That does not mean they are unable to be in communication with Jesus.  Indeed, all those about whom I have written — the Teacher (formerly King David of Old Testament renown and John, author of the 4^th Gospel and Revelation), the Rector (who, I came to understand in 2007 was my older sibling brother in a 16^th century incarnation), Olga Park, our children in spirit, Theresa’s brother, John, CS (‘Charles’) Lewis, Bobby Kennedy, and many, many others who have laid aside their body and are now in what we in the earthly life think of as the etheric realms, are in commun(icat)ion with Jesus.

It must also be stated here that there is not an embodied soul walking the Earth at this moment of time who does not also have one-on-one contact/communion with Jesus available to them at any and every moment, so what is stated above should not be considered 'extraordinary'. This is explained by Jesus in this extract from chapter 3 of my book:

I turned to him and said, “How can it be that you are here, visiting me when there are so many others needing your help, and whom you also would wish to visit?”

The question was really a double one. Partly it was saying ‘Can I be worthy to be privileged by a visit from you, the Lord of all mankind, when there are many others more worthy and in greater need?’ and partly it was saying, ‘How on Earth do you do that?’

His reply answered both aspects. “I am attuned to all mankind all the time; there is never a moment when I am not with you all. All that is needed to complete the contact is for you to attune with me and we are together, at any time.” This seemed to be a principle, along the lines of two-way radio links. If party ‘A’ is at one end, listening to a transmission from party ‘B’ on a given frequency, he can hear party B without any trouble. If he wishes to respond and be heard by party B, all he needs to do is open his microphone with transmitter attuned to the same frequency, and speak, and party B will be able to receive from, as well as transmit to, party A.

There are immeasurably more such souls, with whom I am not personally acquainted, and millions of them are reincarnating in these times of the leavening of the third measure of meal, each on a unique mission in time and place.  That mission is their bringing of more Light into this world, for the help of their brothers here and of themselves, in the common objective of Awakening to Oneness.  Such are the ‘Bride of Christ’, as described in Revelation chapter 21. 

Those in the etheric counterpart of Earth who are not yet fully Self-Realised but are totally, unequivocally espoused to Jesus and his GRP, and thus empowered with Christ authority in all their endeavours for the Kingdom, are thus, to a large extent, even if not yet completely, functioning in and from an enlightened, or, at least, a ‘Kingdom-committed’ state of mind.  Thus can it be stated, even if only in a rather generalised way, that they are in and from a state of Being that, at least for the purposes of my writing of them, is operating from the Realms of Light.  This is why I have used the plural — ‘Realms’ — because even if some are a ‘storey, or more than one storey’ from the Penthouse in Papa’s House, their focus for the GRP, and commitment for helping us to become, and remain, focused, is unswerving. 

Such souls will still need one or more further illusory incarnations to complete their Awakening through release of unconscious guilt by true forgiveness.  Meanwhile, just as we who perceive ourselves as embodied can serve the GRP wholeheartedly, so can they.

I hope this helps, Neil, but do let me know if you have any further observations on this or any matter to do with the Atonement.  Excuse the lengthiness of this reply, but for any visitors to the Forum whose understanding of esoteric/metaphysical matters is ready to progress, a detailed answer can be more helpful than one that assumes the reader already knows aspects that might otherwise have been skipped over. 

Endless Love and blessings for Joy, Peace and fulfilment in all your endeavours for enlightenment in 2012 and beyond, 

Brian

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